One of his main arguments is the fact that kids as young as 12 joined MK. To use this as enough reason to give children the right to vote is ludicrous. It only serves as proof of a national tragedy, short-sightedness and child abuse by the MK, ANC and SACP leadership.
Mandela further claims that there are "at least seven countries" where the voting age is lower than 18 and this draws him to the irrational conclusion that "South Africa should be no exception". There are far more countries where women are not allowed to vote, why should we then be an exception to that? In most African countries nobody votes. Why be an exception to that?
Among the countries Mandela referred to are Nicaragua, North Korea and Afganistan. I suppose you can have 5 year-olds voting if you have a one-party "democracy", or no democracy at all. If these countries are Mandela's role models then God help us.
Furthermore, the Nats actually increased there parliamentary majority when they lowered the voting age from 21 to 18. If they lowered it any further, all indications are that their majority would have been even bigger. The CP might even have benefited. It is also important to note that the German teenagers were organized in the Jugend Bund and became one of Hitler's strongest supporting blocks.
Winnie Mandela recently made one very sensible statement to the effect that 27 years in jail doesn't turn you into a statesman. This latest folly seems to support that view.
Last 25 Visitor Comments
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| raymond kale | ray_kalle_at_yahoo.com | voting | 6/28/2007 |
| why should a 14 year old not vote when he can already understand the writings of shakespear and donne ,he reads newspapers and now watch sat TV ,hear in cameroon at 17 or 18 you are already reading in a university and maybe political sciences then you will only vote at 20 what a shame on us africa |
| what!!!! | anonymous | what r these ppl thinking | 9/7/2005 |
| come on, are u serious, 14year olds voting? most 14y olds dont even know bout goverment policies etc. we might know whats going on in the country, but we're not clued up enough i doubt anybody even cares about voting |
| chris | anonymous | how kidz should vote | 6/30/2005 |
| kids should have their point of veiw shared with the world, and i think that kid should have their own president, so they can have chance to expeirence how laws and government works. |
| Me | Anonymous | General Comment | 5/10/2005 |
| I personally think that this current foruim is a good reason why this shouldn't be put into practice. So many immature people. |
| ima bum | ihateurmama_at_comcast.net | politics | 5/2/2005 |
| we should be able to vote once ur born fuckin bush!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| peasant | Anonymous | Voting at 30 | 4/5/2005 |
| All you snot nosed little economically impotent fuckers. You should not vote. Hell i think until you are 30 you know fuck all about life and the world etc. Hell until 30 you are still idealist revolutionary idiots driven by emotions and not your intellect. |
| Kell | Anonymous | General Comment | 3/30/2005 |
| I think teens like us should vote because we know what we want. any body reply if you think 14yrs old would of got rid of bush |
| dont even ask | anonymous | comment | 3/19/2005 |
| u wanted a reply so here it is
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| anonymos | unidentified | me | 3/18/2005 |
| hello i am so cool reply to this please oh yeah bush stinks |
| jake | Anonymous | yeah i think 14yrs old shud vote | 3/16/2005 |
| I think 14yrs old should vote because at that age you have since to know what you want, and what's right.
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| your mom | agoldberg2_at_minspring.com | stuff | 3/16/2005 |
| hey first i think we should vote i me its our future andif we are able to voe we would feel important because our vote ca n change history and that can make us feel important and micheal jackson is so white he is goin down go drink your jesus juice |
| dude | Anonymous | General Comment | 3/16/2005 |
| i think we shoul be able to vote cause kids are the future of this world and if we cant have a opion on any thing then how can we change things in the future so if any reads this help pass a law that sayes kids 12 and over can vote. |
| RJ Martinez | bladn4u_at_aol.com | comment | 3/13/2005 |
| I believe that 15 year olds and up should vote because who we vote for effects our future lives. |
| !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | anonymous | comment | 3/11/2005 |
| 14 year olds voting...who ever heard of 14 year olds voting? you losers! morons! you guys are heardly even educated!you can hardly even wipe your own asses and change you dirty smelly poopy diapers! you dumb commies, liberals and hippies! you losers nerdy lowlife crackheads! you dumb hippy-ass, spoiled, shitheaded teeneagers! cant you wait 4 years, you spoiled americans? you dumb nerdy couch potatoes! YOU ALL SUCK! dumbass liberals! GO TO HELL!!!!! |
| dont even ask | anonymous | comment | 3/10/2005 |
| why should 14 year olds vote, huh? there not even smart enough to know the details about the election. most kids arent even interested in politics except for the losers who have nothing to do in there lives and are couch potatoes and are nerds and want to make america and the world "a better better place", you dumb liberal hippies. you guys think that the government will even take the kids votes into consideration or even count them as votes? Well i got news for you, buddy, THEY MOST PROBABLY WONT ANYWAYS!!!!!!!! who ever doesnt agree with me probably wont even get there way in the government! you never will!KIDS SHOULDNT VOTE PERIOD! OH YEAH< I FORGOT, GO BUSH!!! ALL THE WAY! |
| amber | gypsyhow_at_aol.com | voting | 3/1/2005 |
| 14 year olds should not vote. they just started highschool or are still in 8th grade too young for anyone to vote
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| smarty tarty | loser_at_jerk.html | yo | 2/23/2005 |
| yo wat up fool |
| rosalie tindugan | rosalie tindugan | politics | 2/23/2005 |
| why 18 yrs. old is responsible enough to vote in the philippines. |
| Me | Anonymous | ughhh | 2/14/2005 |
| ohhh common since when did 14 yr olds b com so smart seriously plz tell me ur jokin. except 4 u guys what other 14 yr old would wanna vote? do they look like they care ... gimme a breakkk |
| zzz | Anonymous | zzz | 2/14/2005 |
| If we can have jobs and be taxed, shouldn't we be able to vote |
| jim | Anonymous | voting | 2/9/2005 |
| we should be able to vote at 12. We are mature enough |
| Visitor | Anonymous | General Comment | 2/9/2005 |
| teenagers should have the right to vote because we need to exersize our rights and show that kids are interested in poletics and that we CAN make a difference :-D |
| unkown | Anonymous | teens should vote | 2/8/2005 |
| my reason is that they should be reasponable to vote |
| unknown | unknown | kids should vote | 1/31/2005 |
| i think 14 year olod should be able to vote because they are responsible enought to tell other people what is right an stuff liek that so i think we should have the right to vote |
| ryan | lil_wite_boi_ryan_at_yahoo.com | hi | 1/31/2005 |
| WhY dont you guys like bush? he does not ass rape
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| tony | Anonymous | voting | 1/28/2005 |
| your all a pack of bush voting cock sucking wankers in 16 an irish an even i know that wee gay texas wanker with his ugly family shouldnt be in da white house we want biily clinton back go monica |
| Visitor | Anonymous | General Comment | 1/21/2005 |
| I think that if teenagers get the right to vote, it should only count as like 1/4 of a vote.
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| Elijah Wood lover | Anonymous | yes and no | 1/21/2005 |
| yes and no just because like some kids should be able to because thay can handle it but some 14 year olds are to in mature... |
| malissa | mal34_at_yahoo.com | drugs | 1/19/2005 |
| we should not do drugs its bad for uor health |
| KARL KORDECKI | karlpol_at_msn.com | kids voting | 1/17/2005 |
| After listening to Flipper (Sean Hanity Show ) interview 18-19 year old kids and explain why they are voting for John Kerry, I can understand why kids don't have a clue how to measure out 1/2 or 1/3 lbs. when they work at a supermarket. This is the way the Democatic Party wants to keep your kids so you have to depend on the government. Ask them why they are voting for him and the answer you get is as empty as their last 12 years of education they got in school.They're more interested in hiphop music or Bart Simpson. There is no way kids that young have any clue what the real issues facing their lives are, just look at some of their parents. |
| dont know | beats me | no no no no | 1/16/2005 |
| I do not think that any child should be allowed to vote simply bcause they are too immature to know what the right decision is. Sure they could vote based on what their parents or they think, but they could be wrong. If children are allowed to vote then you might as well go ahead and hand the whole country over to terrorism. |
| Visitor | Anonymous | General Comment | 1/14/2005 |
| kids as young as 6 should have a say in the government......ITS OUR COUNTRY TO YOU KNOW! |
| Jesse | anonymous | voting at 10 | 1/11/2005 |
| i think that we should be able to vote at 10 because the goverment afect us to for our education system |
| basketball star | Anonymous | General Comment | 1/11/2005 |
| If they let 16 year olds drive their putting someone else's life in danger. So since they let 16 year olds drive then why can't they vote? |
| MLK jr | Anonymous | General Comment | 1/11/2005 |
| 16 year olds are more mature then 14. So 16 year olds should vote but not 14. Go bush |
| Hannah | anonymous | teens should be able to vote | 1/9/2005 |
| Teens should be allowed to vote, we are smarter than most adults!
Kerry is the best! |
| Kaitlynn | tazzy800_at_hotmail.com | yes | 1/6/2005 |
| I think we should why not i am 14 and we are the next generation to the U.S |
| caleb | soccer_boy1991 | voting | 1/5/2005 |
| should 15 years olds have the right to vote for there country. i think they sho7uld so that the will have more people to vote right back asap |
| Anon | Anonymous | Voting | 12/31/2004 |
| No children at the age of 14yrs should not be allowed to vote. Why? For the simple reason that they are CHILDREN. Although they do see things in a different light, it would not take very much to blackmail a child to do anything that you want them to do. |
| jESssicA | jessicaj_2008_08_at_yahoo.com | voting @ age 14 | 12/27/2004 |
| Yes i think 14 yrs old should vote but they should take some kind of muture test and make sure they are muture and will kno wat they are doing when they vote BUSH IS SO AWSOME!!!!! |
| Krystal | alstarteen2005_at_yahoo.com | should 14yr olds be able to vote? | 12/20/2004 |
| yes i think so because we should have a say too. |
| me | Anonymous | voting | 12/17/2004 |
| I believe to many children will just vote as thier parents vote children are very easilt involanced and will vote as thier parents or adults in thier life says to my big "O" |
| Old KING COLr | i see dead ass | whats this | 12/16/2004 |
| i be 14
dont know nothing
bout nothing
so i shpu not vote |
| SuRRa | blahhh dont worry about it | wow u guys need to look at both points of view... | 12/15/2004 |
| alright. if 16 year olds drink with their dumb friends at parties and then think its cool to then drive home, what makes you think a kid that is two years younger can vote for who should be running our country?! Every kid looks up to all these celebrities who spell their name with Lil or Diddys, and then those lil diddys tell us how to vote. We DONT KNOW HOW TO VOTE AND WE SHOULDNT NEED TO. We are 14,15,16,and 17 years old. We are still worrying about who will take us to winter formal. We are not worrying or even paying attention to laws, poverty, hunger or war. So why should we be able to vote? I mean, 30 year olds just vote for the stickers, and when they vote they close their eyes or pick the coolest name! Now, I am 15 years old and I actually know about some stuff, however i dont pay taxes, i dont have a job, i dont pay for gas, i dont watch CNN. I am perfectly happy with waiting until i am 18 or even older to just start PAYING ATTENTION and then maybe when i am educated i can vote... PS GO BUSH!!! |
| Visitor | Anonymous | General Comment | 12/12/2004 |
| i dissagree with you
i am 15 years old but i stand by the restritions owr four fathers put down
children under 18 are not ready to vote
it would most likely be another one of there parents votes
to have a child vote when they dont even have to pay taxes is stupidity |
| Visitor | Anonymous | this might be kinda off the subject but... | 12/7/2004 |
| Ewww!!! McDonalds is sooo discusting, do you even know how many calories are in one meal??? well i'll tell you that there are a lot. DOT EAT THERE YOU WILL BE A FAT HOMO BEFORE YA KNOW IT |
| Visitor | Anonymous | Kids should Vote!!! | 12/6/2004 |
| i think that kids 14 and up should be able to vote. they have a say in what goes on and they should be able to choose their own government. is picking a president that big of a deal? okay maybe it is, but why should we learn about it in school if we dont get a say in it. Just remember - kids can be trusted just as well as audults are. |
| Shayma Remy | ahmedmrh | Kids should be able to vote. | 12/1/2004 |
| Doyou have any idea if kids should vote? |
| Josh | Anonymous | Little Pathetic Idiots | 12/1/2004 |
| You Little 14 year old idiots can not vote for 3 big reasons....1)You have been brainwashed by MTV....its unbelievable that this wasnt a bigger issue in the election, MTV ran a program called 20 million loud in which they made Kerry look like the second coming of Christ. #2 goes with 1 because you little bastards are impressionable....b/c your little teachers and the media is EXTREMLY biased democraticly and that is why you think Bush is a bad president b/c you are force fed liberal propaganda from 8 AM till u lay your pimply little heads down to sleep(if you watch TV before u sleep) 3)You have not hit puberty, you can not go to war, so leave the real issues to the big people for a little while and think for yourself rather than REGURGETATE whatever your socialist history teacher that cant hold a REAL job tries to infect you with....For Cryin out loud |
| a good christian | genius_at_hotmail.com | john | 12/1/2004 |
| Actually smart john, George Bush has done nothing of the such and if your iq is bigger than your shoe size you would know that you pathetic liberal! |
